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Old 12-Jan-21, 15:12
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Default Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

Starting a couple of days ago facebook started flagging and removing posts linking to clips4sale on my personal page and Fight Pulse. They blocked the account for a couple of days, but this is nothing, I've been blocked for months in the past. They don't seem to focus on blocking accounts, but rather removing all posts linking to clips4sale at the moment. They have flagged 10 posts just today, so this might possibly be going on on a massive, automated scale. At first glance this may seem strange, but it is aligned with what we've observed so far. Tumblr went mainstream, deleting all porn. Instagram went nuts a year ago, deleting all wrestling profiles. Facebook has been blocking accounts for years now for tight headscissor photos. Recently Twitter, which seemed to be the only space comfortable with erotic content, flagged and removed a profile photo of Sheena putting Peter in ankle choke that I uploaded, saying violence during sexual activity is bad. [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register].


Back to Facebook. Why clips4sale? They say "sexual solicitation makes people feel unsafe". Here are screenshots of one of these:





Consider that that they took our money to promote these posts in the past.

This is only happening to posts linked to clips4sale. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Old 12-Jan-21, 16:20
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

I don't know how familiar you are with what's going on in the US right now, but it's a combination of SESTA/FOSTA, which are the standard US attack on sex workers in the guise of stopping sex trafficking acts and also the realization of social media companies that there are potential huge consequences of their inaction to monitor their sites which resulted in an ongoing coup attempt here.
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

Haven't had anything removed as of late, but our reach on FB has been crippled for years since they banned my promoter profile. Some things I do on the page:

1. ) Use a custom URL shortening service. Most of the time this works, sometimes it gets hit. We host a YOURLS script to use our domain name to redirect to C4S, and have messed with using Rebrandly via other idle domains as well. Generally there aren't too many problems with these. I wouldn't use Bitly because it was so common at one point, it might trigger a spam filter.

2. ) Images with a lot of flesh tones tend to trigger the bots more than others. The bots can determine shapes and expressions too, and classify off of that. Look what Google Vision can tell and how it classifies our stuff, as well as the details the AI can figure out:
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A lot of times it'll say something is risque/porn when it isn't. Same with this
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This site mentions they can have difficulty detecting black and white images, but that may not be true for all detectors.

You can bet Facebook has it's own in-house version of these things, and they'd be extremely advanced, as well as extremely conservative.

3. ) If the cause is someone who's been on a flagging spree, not much will help.
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Old 12-Jan-21, 17:02
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I don't know how familiar you are with what's going on in the US right now, but it's a combination of SESTA/FOSTA, which are the standard US attack on sex workers in the guise of stopping sex trafficking acts and also the realization of social media companies that there are potential huge consequences of their inaction to monitor their sites which resulted in an ongoing coup attempt here.
I am indeed aware of the trend.

Business interest and integrity are usually not to be found in the same domain, especially when it comes to big businesses. What is happening is logical and expected.

Let's keep this thread to talking about the pretentious nature and transparent hypocrisy of such changes, and let's not turn it into another left vs right fight. What's at work here is human nature, nothing to do with left or right, eventually. We tend to forget this simple fact, but history has shown that given enough time left becomes right and right becomes left, while greed stays where it always was, consuming souls from both.

So, let's observe and ridicule these changes here, regardless of where you choose to stand politically.

We have our plot of land. And maybe we can build it up, so we don't need these fools anymore.
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

It just shows how important it is to have communities like this one that can't get censored. Social media is just digging their own grave, they're going against the principles that made them big in the first place. They'll just force people to look for the content they want elsewhere, while making things difficult for everyone in the process.
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

“He does not possess wealth that allows it to possess him.”
- Benjamin Franklin, you know, the guy put on the $100 bill
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

It will be interesting to see what comes next, will alternative platforms emerge or is freedom of expression as we think of it today headed towards the dust bin of history.

Might be a good idea to see if in addition to social media financial services become the next area to will start to impose restrictions.
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

I get the importance of having on our own space but they can and will still come for you. People told those unhappy with twitter to start their own platform. Parler was born. Then these people went after google and apple to drop Parler from their app stores and they went after amazon to stop hosting parler on their servers. Its really hard to please authoritarians. Once they have power, they love to use it to crush anyone and everyone who doesn't toe the line.
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I get the importance of having on our own space but they can and will still come for you. People told those unhappy with twitter to start their own platform. Parler was born. Then these people went after google and apple to drop Parler from their app stores and they went after amazon to stop hosting parler on their servers. Its really hard to please authoritarians. Once they have power, they love to use it to crush anyone and everyone who doesn't toe the line.
Yup, these nannies will not just end their pursuit and find something productive to do instead. They're like the witch hunters of old. Banks, ISPs, Payment Processors will be attacked for harboring "witches." The final frontier may be the dark web and bitcoin, and for how long would those be safe harbors?
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Default Re: Social media hypocrisy, chapter 12

The promotion of violence is against the terms of service, even if it was ignored until a near-coup. Porn-related things may not be allowed in their ads, but I doubt you'd ever get shut down for that, for instance, hosting your websites on their cloud computing platform. I don't think AWS has any TOS against hosting porn (other than things like child porn). Plenty of porn sites host there.

Nobody really cares about our little community. We're not that special. It took *a lot* to shut the aforementioned site down. It's possible the goal posts will move, but porn drives money, so I doubt everyone would just ban it. Amazon could shut down one of their direct competitors, Netflix (until they migrate to Google or Azure anyway), but money talks. Unfortunately certain events happened that caused this to even be speculated on.

Politics aside, these companies are also tech companies, and they know that porn has driven a great deal of technology innovation.
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